Mar. 11th, 2004
No Hatred. Just loving biblical truth.  
"No Hatred. Just loving biblical truth," read posters held by some of the opponents of gay marriage.

Organized religion should be abolished. If you can't think for yourself, you don't deserve the right to vote. Here's a clue: The Bible is a literary piece, like a collection of short stories with a message. I'm sure when it was put together, no one expected a bunch of idiots in the future to actually read it as if it were to be taken literally. How can someone be so bloody stupid as to think it's to be taken literally? And FUCK YOU, for thinking that I should be forced to be oppressed by your utter lack of common sense! If you prefer religious zealtry, why don't you move your sorry ass to a theocratic government. Might I suggest Iran or Saudi Arabia? But get the hell out of the United States, because, honey, this isn't a theocracy. We are quite the opposite.

But seriously, some of you self-riteous, born again, religious activists have your heads burried so firmly up your asses that you do not even realize that by trying to codify your religious beliefs into government and not respecting the separation of church and state, you risk destroying the whole tenet of freedom of religion. You tear down the very thing you proclaim to want to protect. But you're so short sighted and blinded by fear and hate that you can't see the forest through the trees.

That would involve thinking, and the Pope has decreed thinking to be blasphemy.

I become more and more against religion with every passing day. It brain washes people, discourages free thought, oppresses anyone who doesn't fit its narrow view of what's "normal", and it's destroying this country. I'm sick of it.
Mood: pissed off
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Aristigus: The I'm Wondering Looktrefelix on March 11th, 2004 - 06:50 pm
You know, this is why I added you. Your passion is incredible or at least I read it that way. Everyone once in awhile you come along someone's journal that turns your head and like "whooo" and immedialy you just know that person should be crowned the "Biggie Fry" king of journals....

ep. Sorry, our love for Biggie Fries will die...*sigh*

Seriously, you managed to take all that mental furniture and get it to words - meanwhile, my thoughts are still stuck in the womb.

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The People's Exhibit A: me1 [by paul]davidology on March 11th, 2004 - 11:27 pm
Thanks! Although, I was just really, really pissed off when I wrote it.
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Aristigustrefelix on March 12th, 2004 - 08:10 am
You managed to use being pissed off well. My anger leads to be burning things down. (Kidding)

I see it that anger can help you survive, just like all the other emotions and you worded your moment of pissage very well. If I were an on the edge newspaper, I'd hire you.

Now, I can't decide if I should go to the Museum or sit around the house working on music.

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Gantriochgantrioch on March 11th, 2004 - 07:01 pm
True dat. (Fundamentalist) Protestants annoy me.
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The People's Exhibit A: burns - evildavidology on March 11th, 2004 - 11:30 pm
I think they should take notes. You'd think Jesus would serve as a warning. Someone get me some wood. bwwa hahaha
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willyoungfan on March 11th, 2004 - 07:17 pm
How come I speak 3 languages and nothing as coherent as this ever comes out of me in any of them?
You rock! And I'll help you kick some ass too!
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The People's Exhibit A: me1 [by paul]davidology on March 11th, 2004 - 11:32 pm
I was just really pissed off when I read that. I'm so sick of them thinking they know what's right for the rest of the world. They're dangerous, small minded little twits, and they need to just shut up!!!
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willyoungfan on March 12th, 2004 - 05:39 am
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Vallery: bitchdarkangel40 on March 11th, 2004 - 09:50 pm
I totally agree with you. Religion has become a joke in my opinion. Its just something for people to hide behind because they are to fucking stupid to think for themselves. I saw fuck all those people who can't there heads out of there asses.
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The People's Exhibit A: me1 [by paul]davidology on March 11th, 2004 - 11:40 pm
Yea, too stupid or lazy—I'm not sure which. But the amount of power this minority has managed to amass is absolutely frightening.

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Vallery: bitchdarkangel40 on March 12th, 2004 - 01:49 pm
I know what you mean. How did they mange to get so much power even though there are so many people that are against them. Maybe we don't know everything about our government after all.
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feetlikewings on March 12th, 2004 - 10:45 am
maybe I'm repeating the obvious.....

I'm a christian that truly loves God and also gay.
I admit I know where these sentiments are coming from, since I live inside a strict conservative christian environment. And it is where the source of my pain/frustration/stress is coming from but please make a distinction between God and his Word (the bible) and the people who claim to know him (ie. christians).

yes it sucks that they tell me "to burn in hell" yet proclaim God's love. But really they're just ignorant, it's really difficult but I still love the people I'm around with. So yeah...dont go hating all of us christians...

I mean we're not all bad and ignorant. =)
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Gres02gres02 on March 12th, 2004 - 11:50 am
My god, you are the ignorant one. The Bible does condemn you, it condemns you and all of your offspring for 11 generations. It strictly states that the moral then to do is to kill you.

The Bible is an EVIL book and people need to stop defending it. It is not that evil people are taking the Bible and twisting it to expose hate--it is that the Bible itself expouses hate and it twists people into following its hateful message.

The God of the Bible is not a loving god at all. He is jealous and vengeful and full of rightious hate, a good deal of which is aimed at you.

I can not fathom your point of view. Sure people hate me, and sure the bible states that they should, and sure god himself in the bible--which is the very foundation of what I believe--specifically calls for me to be put to death and states that I will burn in hell. But, I love my religion anyway because...

Well, why do you cling to a religion that so obviously wants you in hell?

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Gantriochgantrioch on March 12th, 2004 - 02:44 pm
Because, personally, I, as a Roman Catholic, do NOT take the Bible literally and neither does the Church. No one knows who is going to Heaven or Hell except God himself. It's presumptuous to think that one knows (fundie Protestants!).
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ex_prezrober685 on March 12th, 2004 - 03:01 pm
this is very true.
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ex_prezrober685 on March 12th, 2004 - 03:00 pm
tell me, is ignorance bliss or does that bitterness drown the world you live in too
The Bible does condemns a lot... you don't know and certainly have not read enough of it, to say it condems him. So lay off it. Because, well, if you had read it, you'd realize the Old Testament is not applicable to Christians today except as a guide, not a law. It's something called Jesus Christ that changed it.

And so far as I know, you have yet to show me where the philosophy of The Christ is immoral or anti-gay. Please enlighten me.

The Bible like many books has evil in it. Maybe you've read Stephen King and come across facts as well as fiction, look at it that way if it pleases you.

"It is not that evil people are taking the Bible and twisting it to expose hate--it is that the Bible itself expouses hate and it twists people into following its hateful message."

Right. Okay... you have yet to prove this case, as I've already mentioned above.

Yes, God is jealous and vengeful. What's wrong with that? Jealousy provides protection. If you're jealous of someone it means you protect them. Vengeful means that you seek payment of a wrong rather than letting that wrong stand.

I can not fathom your point of view. It is based on people who hold up signs that say, "God hates FAGS!" Well, we each have our signs that show our bias... from hatred to love.

Yes, God does specifically call you and everyone to burn in hell for their sins. That's no surprise, so don't make it sound so dramatic. The difference is in what God thinks is a sin and what you think God thinks is a sin.

You truly don't understand The Passion of The Christ.
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feetlikewings on March 12th, 2004 - 03:37 pm
I only wished that God and the bible wouldn't be tainted by the qualities of the christians who follow it, and therefore He be judged by their actions. But I guess it's already too late.

Im sorry to hear you dislike God and the Word, but at least know that God doesn't hate but IS love. And I know this and that's why I cling to God and my religion. I've done all I can to have a relationship with God. And I feel secure that I do have one. And in this relationship I can say that [i] love Him, because He first loved [me] 1John4.19

However I am curious to why you think the Bible and God, not the people, are hateful?

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ex_prezrober685 on March 12th, 2004 - 02:44 pm
I for one...
think you said that quite well.

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The People's Exhibit A: Calvin - rantsdavidology on March 12th, 2004 - 03:47 pm
Re: hmmmm
My diatribe was meant more for the evangelical, holier than thou, hell fire and brimstone Christians out there, and not the people who hold their beliefs but understand not everyone agrees with them.

I don't belive that The Bible is God's word. I think it's a book of short stories woven together to espouse a message and guide people throughout life. There are some wonderful messages in there, but is wrought with symbolism and subject to interpretation. I don't believe it was ever meant to be taken literally or at face value. It's certainly not law nor a basis of for forming government.

I think when human beings profess to be able to speak or know what the "word of God" is, is when we start having problems. It creates a passion that cannot be argued against because you cannot have a rational argument with someone who will always fall back on, "Well because God said so, that's why. You're going to hell."

I just don't buy that.

I don't think that God is judgmental. I don't think he sends people to hell. I think God is a benevolent force, and I don't think he/she/it condemns people for acting on natural urges, nor does he send his offspring, nor put images of his mom in windows or table cloths or other silly things. That's not to say the world is devoid of miracles. Life, in and of itself, is a miracle, imho.

Organized religion seems to be a way by which people can feel guilty for anything pleasurable and serves as a vehicle to reinforce their fears by claiming that "God said so." Combine all that with groupthink and gang dynamics, and you have a recipe for persecution, prejudice and oppression. That's what we see today in our country, in the middle east, and throughout history. How many wars are going to be fought in the world, how many people are going to be killed in the name of God?

Now that's what I believe and may very well not be what you believe. And that's fine. Any Christian or Orthodox Jew is free to sit in his home and quietly condemn me to hell all he wants. I don't care, because I would say that person is very small minded. However, when that person tries to pass laws based upon those religious beliefs, to tell me what I can watch or not watch, or whom I can have sex with and how, or gets elected/appointed judge and then tries to place those "laws" up on the wall to pass judgement upon me, I have a problem.

I can respect someone else's religious beliefs, even if I disagree with them, but I'm can't sit back and watch them pervert the laws of my state and country that effect my life when I don't subscribe to those beliefs. I will fight back with all my strength and might, and if it involves belittling them to the point of irrelevancy, I think that's fair, considering they seem to have no bounds to what they will do to entrench their bigotry into our laws and even our constitution.

I respect that your beliefs differ from mine. But as far as these fundamentalist religious activists, I do not respect them, not one iota. Respect is earned, not given.
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