Feb. 25th, 2004
FCUK Bush  
LOL. That was Jon's sign tonight at the rally protesting Bush's call for amending our constitution. Brilliant. Now, if French Connection will sell the shirt....

here's a pic of the crowd

yay for bad cell phone pictures

Anyway, I don't know how much longer I can stay in this party. I hang on because I believe in less government intrusion into our lives. I do believe that capitalism is the best economic system around (with rules and boundaries and setting those boundaries is the role of government). I hang on because I hope to have an influence and help elect sane nominees for the elections. If all gays leave the Republican Party, then we have a constant enemy.

But the party's been taken over by social engineers, religious extremists, and outright bigots. I was reading some of the hate mail Margaret Cho received after the moveon.org event from conservatives. The homophobia and racism are downright sickening. That's not to say the right has the lock on hatred, but it does seem so much more prevalent and venemous.

I'd go Libertarian, but two three problems: (1) I'm not that extreme, and I don't think the free market will work everything out (government has to establish rules and set boundaries). (2) Despite its weaknesses, I do believe that the two-party system serves a purpose and helps polarize us to keep two divergent forces pulling in different directions. And, if that assclown Ralph Nader weren't around in 2000, we wouldn't have Bush in office right now. And (3), they're all INSANE!

meh. I wish there weren't such a socialist influence in the Democratic Party. But, hey, maybe I could help vote for sane nominees in that party instead — a party that doesn't make me embarrassed to be a part of it on an almost daily basis; a party that doesn't ritualistically denigrate me. Honestly, lately it almost feels like battered spouse syndrome where you just stick around and stick around despite the abuse.

I need to do some more soul searching. But I'm definitely staying in long enough to vote against Bush in the primary. I know it's a throw away, but it will feel sooooo good punching that vote against W. I just need to find out who's running against him here.

"I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the Earth." -Thomas Jefferson

Mood: determined
Listening to: Bright Eyes - Don't Know When But a Day is Gonna Come
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Davefive_balloons on February 25th, 2004 - 06:09 am
Woot Woot for cell phone pix!
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 05:46 pm
I agree :-P
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Gantriochgantrioch on February 25th, 2004 - 07:36 am
Affluent David wants to switch to the "poor people's" party?

Hehe j/k ;-).
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The People's Exhibit A: A.D.D.davidology on February 25th, 2004 - 09:21 am
hey, when did I become affluent? And why didn't anyone tell me??

oh wait, I forgot, to the demos, affluent is anyone with a job. :-P
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Gantriochgantrioch on February 25th, 2004 - 10:04 am
I'm not the one leasing an Infiniti :-p.

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The People's Exhibit A: AbFab - Edwinadavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 10:37 am
Hey, this is L.A. That means nothing.

A 3-series is our Ford Escort. Anything less, and you get tickets driving through Beverly Hills.
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Gantriochgantrioch on February 25th, 2004 - 10:52 am
Yeah, I should be used to that ....
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The People's Exhibit A: Tonguedavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 11:48 am
We are a shallow people. But our weather's better than your's. So there. :-þ
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Gantriochgantrioch on February 25th, 2004 - 02:31 pm
Yeah, but we have, on average, more money than you :-p.

Hehe. We are a shallow people ;-)!
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The People's Exhibit A: Tonguedavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 02:37 pm
but we are perceived to have more money, and perception is 90% of reality.

Plus, we are the center of the universe.
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Gantriochgantrioch on February 25th, 2004 - 03:25 pm
Good thing the rest of us are expanding away from LA ;-).
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The People's Exhibit A: hiding outdavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 03:29 pm
L.A. 0wnz you
Good thing our movies will reach you.

You can run....
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beachboytybeachboyty on February 25th, 2004 - 10:45 am
I understand completely where you are coming from. I can't bring myself to switch parties, mostly for the reasons you note. I think it is unwise to just hand over one half of the political voice in this country (its a two party system for better or for worse) to the bigots and extremists. I feel it is my unpleasant duty as someone who is naturally conservative to stay and fight in the Party.

Its a thankless job, to be sure. But I don't like the alternative. I am gay and therefore I must be liberal/progressive/Democrat. I gave up too much in order to say, "I can love who I choose to" to now have to give up my right to choose my political philosophy just because one side is so much easier than the other.

I won't be voting for Bush, of course. But how I vote and how I stay involved politically are not the same thing. I stay and fight (I am the chair of Log Cabin Orange County) in the hopes that some day I can vote for the candidate whose views on all the issues most reflect my own, without having to factor in which one has (or pretends to have) respect for me as a gay person.

I respect your choice if you ultimately feel you have to leave. God knows I have many friends who've moved to the other side of the aisle because its easier for them to hold their nose at liberal politics than to deal with the bigots who have infested conservativism.

But if you decide to stay and keep up the fight, just know that the most difficult, bloody, costly battles are usually the most critical to winning the war.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 06:02 pm
All very good points, and I generally talk myself out of switching. I also dislike being predictable. I hate nothing more than being the stereotype. Just because I'm gay does not mean I'm pro-union, pro-socialized medicine, etc.

There seem to be benefits to both. At first I thought leaving was quitting, but leaving also sends a messageto both the party and the country. If the Republican Party becomes marginalized, as it certainly deserves to be based on what it's become, that sends a strong message as well. I could always switch back when it expunges the religious freaks from its ranks.

But at this point, when confronted with why I would be associated with this party, I don't know that I can defend them anymore.

They're wrong. And they've never been more wrong. Next they'll be telling us masturbation is a sin, and sex is for procreation only. It's as if Bush is going for Pope after his stint as President.
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beachboytybeachboyty on February 26th, 2004 - 09:15 am
I agree...and now we have "decency hearings" going on in congress over what we hear/see on radio and tv. I feel like we are back in the 50's.

It's disturbing.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 26th, 2004 - 09:48 am
yea... it's time for Rev. Bush to go.
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driftwoodsun on February 25th, 2004 - 01:09 pm
It's a hard fought battle, but a worthy one, and I respect it, despite the fact that I'm pretty much on the other end of the political spectrum.

If old-style Republicans were actually in control of your party, I'd probably find myself voting for them about 1/2 the time.

As far as Libertarianism goes, I think you might appreciate this.

And in sharing it, I reveal just how much of a nerd I really am.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 26th, 2004 - 02:14 am
yea it's screwed. I think I've decided to stick it out through the general election. I think it sends a stronger statement to vote for Kerry as a Republican. But, if Bush should manage to get reelected, then I'll be revisiting this again.

Oh, and I can't get that link to work!
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driftwoodsun on February 26th, 2004 - 01:23 pm
Since you can't get the link to work, I'll just post it here:
from hoptkov

I Am the Very Model of a Modern Libertarian

I am the very model of a modern Libertarian:
I teem with glowing notions for proposals millenarian,
I've nothing but contempt for ideologies collectivist
(My own ideas of social good tend more toward the Objectivist).
You see, I've just discovered, by my intellectual bravery,
That civic obligations are all tantamount to slavery;
And thus that ancient pastime, viz., complaining of taxation,
Assumes the glorious aspect of a war for liberation!

You really must admit it's a delightful revelation:
To bitch about your taxes is to fight for liberation!

I bolster up my claims with lucubrations rather risible
About the Founding Fathers and the market's hand invisible;
In fact, my slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian
Makes me the very model of a modern Libertarian!

His very slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian
Makes him the very model of a modern Libertarian!

All "public wealth" is robbery, we never will accede to it;
You have no rights in anything if you can't show your deed to it.
(But don't fear repossession by our Amerind minority:
Those treaties aren't valid---Uncle Sam had no authority!)
We realize whales and wolves and moose find wilderness quite vital,
And we'll give back their habitats---if they can prove their title.
But people like unspoiled lands (we too will say "hooray" for them),
So we have faith that someone else will freely choose to pay for them.

Yes, when the parks are auctioned it will be a lucky day for them---
We're confident that someone else will freely choose to pay for them!

We'll guard the health of nature by self-interest most astute:
Since pollution is destructive, no one ever will pollute.
Thus factories will safeguard our communities riparian---
I am the very model of a modern Libertarian!

Yes, factories will safeguard our communities riparian,
He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!

In short, when I can tell why individual consumers
Know best who should approve their drugs and who should treat their tumors;
Why civilized existence in its intricate confusion
Will be simple and straightforward, absent government intrusion;
Why markets cannot err within the system I've described,
Why poor folk won't be bullied and why rich folk won't be bribed,
And why all vast inequities of power and position
Will vanish when I wave my wand and utter "COMPETITION!"---

He's so much more exciting than a common politician,
Inequities will vanish when he hollers "Competition!"

---And why my lofty rhetoric and arguments meticulous
Inspire shouts of laughter and the hearty cry, "Ridiculous!",
And why my social theories all seem so pre-Sumerian---
I'll be the very model of a modern Libertarian!

His novel social theories all seem so pre-Sumerian---
He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!
So yes, there it is. Hope you enjoyed it. ;-)
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 26th, 2004 - 10:47 pm
That's oddly catchy.
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Milambermilamberrex on February 25th, 2004 - 05:06 pm
As a gay republican, I know exactly where you are coming. It's not easy, but I refuse to convert to the democratic party simply because they are too socialist. While I do not anticipate voting for Bush this election, I know that I could never vote for John Kerry.

While the "tolerant" liberals spew their venomous hatred for republicans, I believe that we are better off having gays involved in both parties. If all of us left the republican party, I believe we would be in much more danger since we would have absolutely no one to voice our opinions/concerns.

No matter what you decide is right for you, know that you are not alone in this dichotomy. Best wishes for whatever you decide.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on February 25th, 2004 - 06:28 pm
I will say that I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, but I did consider it then at least. There will be no consideration this year. The man has done more damage to this country in his four years than I ever imagined he could have. The Democrats are actually nominating a candidate I can get behind this time. I agree with him on a surprising number of issues, although his pro-union drivel gets on my nerves. If you don't like your job, then sit around and bitch about it like the rest of us or quit.

I actually signed up for his campaign after Bush's announcement yesterday. I don't think voting for him is enough. I plan to support and help elect him. At the risk of sounding sanctimonious, Bush declared war on us yesterday. It's no surprise, Gillespie pretty much said last year that they were going to use gay marriage as the divisive issue for the 2004 campaign.

This party's lost its focus. It tried to cater to the religious zealots in the country some time ago, and they took it over. Now they're trying to legislate their dogma to the point they have a sitting President actually trying to amend our constitution to codify discrimination into the document that defines us as a nation.

They have to be stopped. Honestly, I don't know what I will ultimately do. But step one is to get Kerry elected to office. And I think it will send a stronger message to GOP to vote for him as a Republican.

If Bush is reelected, I think I will almost definitely change parties. Right now, I find it abhorrent that I breathe the same air as he does!
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