Oct. 31st, 2008
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This election for Prop 8 will be close. If you haven't donated, or if you have, please, please consider giving/giving more. Out of state forces are organized and pulling out all the stops to end gay marriage in California. If this dies in California, it will slow down progress across the nation, and bigots behind this proposition know this.

Every little bit helps.

I've had the pleasure of attending a long time friend's wedding just last weekend. I don't want their wedding (or anyone else's) undone.

This is the latest No on Prop 8 with Samuel Jackson. It rocks, and people need to see it. The Yes on 8 people are outspending us. I see their ads far with far more frequency than I see ours.

PLEASE view the ads and help defeat this disgusting, hateful proposition. You can donate directly at the noonprop8.com site.

Here is a made-for-internet ad from Kathy Griffin that's equally awesome.

Sorry for the solicitation... but this is so fucking important—for all of us. The impact will be felt far beyond California. The bigots know that. That's why they're so aggressively attacking us here.

This proposition is very much in danger of passing. It will be very bitter sweet if we usher in a new day with a new President but Prop 8 passes.

From Equality California:
The latest Field Poll, released this morning, shows that our campaign ads are working. Now that we are finally up on the air equal with the other side, we have turned our deficit in the polls into a very narrow lead with 49% indicating they plan to vote no and 44% saying they intend to vote yes.

Unfortunately, the same poll found that 22 percent of those surveyed had already voted -- and that this group voted “yes” on Proposition 8, 50 to 44 percent. That’s why it is so critical that over the weekend we convince any undecided voters to vote NO on Tuesday.

Mood: determined
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james__sndchasr on October 31st, 2008 - 11:40 pm
My friend in San Jose has been working the phones as a volunteer. I've donated even though I live in VA. I only wish I could vote no on this. Just pisses me off that they can't let us be happy and live our lives like everyone else. We deserve it!
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Jaimieobsidian_heart on October 31st, 2008 - 11:53 pm
I would love nothing more than to see this awful hateful disgusting and unnecessary prop defeated.
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Bobby: Peter Panshouldvesmiled on November 1st, 2008 - 12:22 am
I donated again today.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 4th, 2008 - 12:44 am

i'm afraid to login to my amex account. I know I've made a few late-night donations after seeing a yes on 8 ad.
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Brian: No on 102bender772 on November 1st, 2008 - 12:59 am
I just donated again and I remain hopeful that we can pull this out.
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sisyphus238: Gay Rightssisyphus238 on November 1st, 2008 - 01:49 am
I live in Oregon and have donated once and here goes another.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 4th, 2008 - 12:44 am
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Micahceousmicahblitz on November 1st, 2008 - 02:26 am
Just wondering...in the first ad, why are all the gay couples white?
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 4th, 2008 - 12:49 am
I don't know. There are only two gay couples even (briefly) shown. Samuel Jackson was behind the ad. You'll have to ask him.
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kittenrae on November 4th, 2008 - 01:17 am
Well, duh - because people who would vote YES on 8 would only like white males anyway. :)

I mean, why weren't they showing an interracial lesbian couple? It's all propaganda - so you have to think about who they're aiming at.
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kittenrae on November 1st, 2008 - 03:50 pm
I can't imagine Prop 8 passing, honestly. I don't know a single person who supports it. They may be out-spending in the commercials dept, but an election is not won by television ads -- it's won by people's choices.

When you see a prop that says it's to abolish gay marriage, do you really think that CA, with the entertainment and tech industries based here, will actually go so far as to nullify marriages after all the fighting that has been done to make them a reality? Hell no. Old people and out-of-town people vote "yes" on bullshit like that - so the early votes only tell us what people who can't go to the polls think.

Ultimately, whether or not Prop 8 passes or fails, gay marriage is a reality that will not go away -- and the laws of this state and this country already list sexual orientation as one of the things we can't discriminate against.

Whether it's today or in 10 years, gays will have the right to marry in any state in the US. To be *terribly* blunt, if employers can't fire you or not hire you for being gay and landlords can't discriminate against you in housing situations because of federal laws, then it follows that those same discriminatory practices would not be acceptable in federal legislation. It's only a matter of time before this hits the Supreme Court again.

Prop 8 is seeking to amend the CA Constitution to remove a person's right to do something that is considered a fundamental right. The right to marriage is considered by the Supreme Court to be a fundamental right in Loving v. Virginia, a case where the USSC made inter-racial marriage legal. Combine that decision with the one in Lawrence v. Texas (which protects your right to be gay without legal interference in the first place) and the many acts passed by the state and federal legislatures to offer protection against discrimination based on sexual orientation, and there's a strong tapestry of stare decisis and persuasive secondary sources to make gay marriage perfectly legal.

If Prop 8 DOES pass, I can unequivocally guarantee that one of the couples who have recently married will bring a claim against the state, and that their legal fees will be taken care of by supporters -- and that it will undoubtedly be granted cert by the Supreme Court.

I hope it doesn't come to that because of the actions of Californians, but eventually it will show up there - even if it's based on a Full Faith & Credit claim for another state not recognizing a gay marriage.

Sorry for having written a small novel. I just want to let you know that while the fight is young and far from over, we will emerge victorious.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 4th, 2008 - 12:49 am
Thanks for this. It does make me feel better.
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kittenrae on November 4th, 2008 - 01:14 am
Glad to hear it! :)
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