Aug. 10th, 2006
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"To complete this call, you must dial 1 plus the area code and number. Message 14LSM3"

diaf, bitch. could at least deprecate the 1.


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(no subject) - (Anonymous) on August 10th, 2006 - 06:41 pm
The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 12th, 2006 - 04:37 pm
so weird... I just got this notification (well, i guess not so weird for lj).

They tried to do this overlay ~1999, then they redid the rules for distributing phone numbers (so they didn't have to give them in 10,000 # buckets anymore), and it quietly disappeared. Now, they've brought it back, but the 1+ thing only affects 310.

It's only long distance though if you're calling from a landline and it's like 12 miles away; then it's a "zone call". least I think they still do that local long distance stuff. We only use really have/use our landline to answer the gate, so I don't pay attention.
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Jonjeepskank on August 10th, 2006 - 07:14 pm
i would have preferred to see 424 as a split instead of an overlay.
people in the south bay were mad about losing 310, but really, i wouldnt' care if my number became a 424 number. big deal. i think this extra dialing is a pain, even though it's only a few more numbers.

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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 10th, 2006 - 09:14 pm
I'm so with you on that one. They tried this back around '99, and quietly stopped it.

I'm so dumbfounded by this decision, I actually wrote CPUC when they were soliciting opinions. It makes absolutely no sense for the sobay and BH/West LA to be in the same area code because they're so far apart now (with traffic). I know if a business' area code is 323, it's east of La Cienega; if it's 310, it would make sense that I could depend upon it being between La Cienega and the beach, and north of the Playa Vista (or at the very least LAX).

In fact, if you were to call from BH to Gardena (all within 310), it would be a zone call, which makes absolutely no sense. You shouldn't talk about overlaying an area code until all calls within it are local, imho.

...and for the love of god and all things holy, if you require the area code to be dialed, DROP THE GD 1!!

There should have been one more split before an overlay.
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gregstevenstx on August 10th, 2006 - 07:20 pm
I bet they aren't deprecating the 1 because they are anticipating having to increase usage to include other initial digits at some point in the future.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 10th, 2006 - 09:21 pm
thing that bugs me is that with new switches and the proliferation of cell phones, we really should need less numbers.

I mean, in maybe 97, when we were splitting area codes in L.A. like numbers were going out of style, I'd have to give friends my home #, pager #, work #, cell # (and AOL SN). But now, you really only need my cell. Pagers and faxes are becoming more and more obsolete. With digital phone lines, VoIP, and modern switching stations, small businesses shouldn't need multiple numbers (one rolling over to the other). In theory, if you eliminate old switches, I would think you'd be able to route multiple calls on one number.

I mean, I haven't studied it, but it seems to me actual number usage must have slowed by now, and will probably start going down at some point.

I dunno CPUC was just itching to do an overlay for some reason—perhaps to vindicate their botched attempt in 1999.

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gregstevenstx on August 10th, 2006 - 10:06 pm
Number growth may be slowing down (I don't know the actual stats either), but I doubt they will decrease.

You have to remember:

  1. for families, it still sometimes makes sense to call a home rather than an individual, so they will still want land-lines as well as cells for each individual
  2. for businesses, again -- even if you own your own business and are the sole proprietor -- you may very well want to distinguish between someone calling the business and someone calling you, so that's multiple lines.
  3. Also remember that many businesses like having multiple phone lines for multiple departments, rather than forcing people to dial a number plus an extension.
  4. Finally, I disagree that faxes are becoming obsolete. So far, they are the only thing that is common at all in the business world that can be used to transmit signed documents. There may be new technologies out there, but they are nowhere NEAR pervasive enough to be a threat to fax machines.... for a while, anyway.
So I think you have to be careful in your estimates of the real demand for unique phone numbers. Although it may be decreasing for hip single young professionals like yourself, I think there are still plenty of demographics where people feel they NEED to have three or four numbers for different uses.
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eviltickles on August 10th, 2006 - 08:16 pm
sbc/att huh?
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perry: WTF?compositeur on August 10th, 2006 - 08:53 pm
For a couple of years now in NY, I've had to dial 1 + area to call the Chinese place 4 doors down, or the guy across the hall for that matter....

Feels really 't00pid.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 10th, 2006 - 09:22 pm
at least you get to just dial 7 digits within 212.

although, you guys got to split faxes and cells off in another area code too before the FCC changed the rules on that too.
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perry: Big Girlcompositeur on August 10th, 2006 - 09:33 pm
Oh no no. 10 digits, all 5 boros. Sux big, gurl.
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baltpup25: phonebaltpup25 on August 11th, 2006 - 12:34 am
LMAO such a great pic.

Here, I dialed the phone number and the damn thing told me I needed to dial a "1." Then, when I dialed a "1," it told me I didn't have to dial a "1" and completed the call anyway.

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