Aug. 24th, 2005
All this Google Talk  
So, it seems some people have been surmising that Google, in its non-evil mission to take over the world, is going to take over the IM space. I'm not convinced. All I know is I'm stuck downloading (because I'm compulsive like that) yet another IM client I'll use twice!

Don't get me wrong, I love teh google, but unless they're gonna buy AOL, i don't think it's gonna happen this time. As Microsoft learned to its dismay, people stay where their buddy lists are. Even embedding the thing into the operating system and forcing the goddamn thing to popup every blessed time you peed didn't get people to switch from AIM to MSN—even though the AIM client had fallen woefully behind feature-set-wise.

Let's be realistic, unless AOL trips and unplugs the servers, all your IM base belong to them—despite their near-blinding ineptness. The only thing that could possibly help the others is if AOL agrees to interoperability, which, unless AOL is retarded, won't happen (so there's still a chance).

The one to possibly beware of in IM Land (I think) is MySpace, which would be awful since Ruppert Murdoch is out to rule the world and feed our brains to George Bush. That site just has some weird Jonestown mojo thing going on, but even they would have a hard time knocking AOL off its throne. It's not enough for you to switch, you have to get your 127 350 buddies to switch too. AIM is as ubiquitous in IM as Google is in search.

Face it, AIM is the English language of IM. Using another IM client is like speaking Spanish. Sure, it'll get you extra meat on your burrito, but most of your friends aren't going to understand you.

Mood: geeky
Listening to: Switchfoot - Dare You to Move
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matintinmatintin on August 24th, 2005 - 10:00 pm
It's weird - AIM is virtually unknown outside the States. Hotmail was able to fuse msn easily.

Moral of the story: AOL, being the largest US service provider, was able to move the tide to its chat program. Hotmail, being the largest webmail provider, was able to move the (non-US) tide to its chat program.

Google is obviously hoping to do the same, but the connection between search and chat is too tenous, given the fact that gmail hasn't quite caught on yet.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 25th, 2005 - 12:30 am
I don't think AOL or MSN actually moved anybody really.

AOL pretty much created consumer instant messaging on any large scale on the old AOL client (Rainman interface). In fact, IMing was one of the draws to AOL over CompuServ and Prodigy. AOL later introduced AIM to allow non-AOL members to IM as well, and the rest was history.

Of course, AOL was an American product. I'm not sure, but I would assume that MSN just beat AOL to the punch overseas since Windows was all over the place and AOL was less a portal and more a U.S. ISP. I think that's why you have such a difference between popularity in products in the different regions.

The only other one I remember making a dent here was ICQ. I don't really remember when it entered the scene exactly, but it was mostly a geek product since you could transfer files and directly connect—things AOL/AIM just weren't capable of doing back in the day. I proselytized until I got many of my friends to add ICQ to their computers, but they soon reverted back to AOL/AIM.

I doubt AOL will be able to overcome MSN overseas for the same reasons no one's been able to overtake AIM. There's just so much momentum involved in getting everyone to switch over. But who knows? AOL doesn't seem to be able to figure out what it needs to do anymore!
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matintinmatintin on August 25th, 2005 - 12:54 am
By "moved" I meant "made adopt;" same idea as what you call momentum. It's a gravitational thing - folk will follow the masses, on an "everyone in one place" convenience principle.

ICQ was fairly widespread up here mid-90s, but was pretty much wiped out by MSN (each stealing the other's ideas with every new version). No doubt was the fact that msn came standard with setting up a hotmail account, which nearly everyone did. None of the ISPs up here were ever "portals" or content providers like AOL, so there was a certain uniformity in getting hotmail and msn - ideal for a company seeking the dominant position.

Case in point: the only reason I have AIM is because it's bundled with netscape. The only reason I use it is to talk to Americans without msn. I deleted ICQ long ago because ... well, I forget why, but it was probably because no one was ever on it who wasn't on msn.
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matintinmatintin on August 25th, 2005 - 12:54 am
Oh, and p.s., Canada is not "overseas."
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 25th, 2005 - 01:02 am
sorry- was speaking more about Australia and UK since that's my experience where I've had to run MSN to IM them and have had the MSN/AIM discussion. Have never really spoken to anyone in Canada about you guys use until now.
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matintinmatintin on August 25th, 2005 - 01:07 am
I thought it was funny, 'cause my relatives do this all the time.

You are no longer a Canada virgin.
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東西南北tongsinanpei on August 26th, 2005 - 02:25 pm
I don't know a single person who uses AIM and doesn't live in the US.

ICQ was pretty popular where I live as well for quite some time until my entire buddy list shifted to MSN. Since then, my Yahoo! and ICQ accounts have never been used for very much. (I use Yahoo! primarily for e-mail alerts and LAUNCHcast.)
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eviltickles on August 25th, 2005 - 02:07 am
i am not posting on this post per se, tho i'm never gonna stop using AIM, but rather on animation that you used posed (which i suspect that you put for the sole purpose of garnering attention) to which i reply: HAHAHAHAHAHA
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on August 25th, 2005 - 04:13 am
...or maybe the post was just an excuse to use the graphic?

actually the whole thing was just pretense for making the burrito joke.
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Ryanbcp on August 25th, 2005 - 06:23 am
On behalf of Australia, I'd like to apologise for producing Rupert Murdoch.

Dubya is your own damn fault though. :)
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.kaiskeebeat.atomikai on August 25th, 2005 - 07:31 am
uninvited response..
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Josephchemology on August 29th, 2005 - 02:16 am
How is your family doing, in N.O.?
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