Jan. 18th, 2007
Redefining Sophistry  
From today's judicial hearings:

I meant by that comment that the Constitution doesn't say that every individual in the United States or every citizen has or is assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn't say that. It simply says that the right of habeas corpus shall not be suspended."

-U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales (source)


Habeas Corpus: Don't get taken from home without it (I didn't make this - link to author)



 
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(no subject) - chucknoblet on January 19th, 2007 - 12:14 am
mark or marky: spikey means hornymarkormarky on January 19th, 2007 - 01:56 am
yeh but Gonzales is particularly creepy with his quiet little cheerful tone of robotic armor, as he strips citizens of rights.

he's been one of bush's top drone zombies in the Authoritarian Jihad ever since the days of bush finding jesus in texas -- as u prob'ly know.

i think i prefer john mccain's angry insanity, at least it has emotion and feels human. unlike Gonzales, who presents himself as a distant speck of inanimate dust.
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(no subject) - chucknoblet on January 19th, 2007 - 03:14 am
mark or marky: right temple red shirtmarkormarky on January 19th, 2007 - 03:18 am
totally :-) !!
i was keeping my choices of angry insanity to wingnut republicans.

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(no subject) - michaepf on January 19th, 2007 - 05:02 am
(no subject) - chucknoblet on January 19th, 2007 - 07:20 am
mark or markymarkormarky on January 19th, 2007 - 02:08 am
glenn greenwald was in the senate hearing today and blogged the Gonzales testimony. OMG -----
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2007/01/grave-and-epic-war-spending-time-with.html
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autosportscrew on January 19th, 2007 - 12:50 pm
oh
my
god.

this really fucks me up inside. i'm aghast. is there no end to this bush madness? they remind me of a wounded animal. they know they're hurt, they know their days are numbered and like that wounded animal they will be dangerous and deadly.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on January 20th, 2007 - 12:12 am
i think my head just exploded again.
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baltpup25: laughing puppybaltpup25 on January 19th, 2007 - 02:15 am
LMAO!!!!! Love the graphic.

Sounds like someone -- a SCOTUS justice at that -- needs to re-read "Gideon's Trumpet." Sheesh.
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Bobby: Condi angryshouldvesmiled on January 19th, 2007 - 02:42 am
It's not death; it's a lack of life.
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driftwoodsun on January 19th, 2007 - 05:10 am
Sounds like our good friend Alberto needs to read the fucking Federalist Papers and also acquaint himself with a little thing called the 9th Amendment.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on January 20th, 2007 - 12:11 am
"It's just a piece of paper."
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driftwoodsun on January 21st, 2007 - 03:53 am
"...with a few suggestions written on it."
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machmed on January 19th, 2007 - 07:22 am
Good golly. That Gonzales is real clever with the words, isn't he?
Although he's certainly right, he undoubtedly fails to recognize that the Constitution also doesn't say that the right of habeas corpus shall not be suspended only for certain individuals. It's neat how that works, Mr. Gonzales, isn't it? :>
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autosportscrew on January 19th, 2007 - 12:47 pm
Gonzales needs to be castrated... he should never reproduce.

I've been reading some of his comments during his senate testimony and it's all I can do to keep from beating the hell out of my laptop, but that would be blaming the messenger, not the message.
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ex_prezrober685 on January 19th, 2007 - 02:03 pm
Maybe he's more use to the Mexican Constitution?
Some report should have said, "It doesn't say you can breathe or take a piss either, does it, Mr Gonzales?"

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Caseycaseyle82 on January 19th, 2007 - 11:38 pm
I mean, he kind of has a point.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on January 20th, 2007 - 12:10 am
Unless his point is to deliberately and maliciously misinterpret the clear meaning of "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it," he really doesn't.

If we use his perverted logic, then the First Amendment doesn't count either because it doesn't say "everyone...." In fact, if we accept his logic as valid, I'm pretty sure we could subvert any law.

It's completely deliberately manipulative and disingenuous and not anything we should expect the Attorney General of the United States to say.
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