Nov. 3rd, 2004
To the red states  
You're voted off the island.
 
 
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machmed on November 3rd, 2004 - 09:13 am
Haha seriously!
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Markmillenium_spike on November 3rd, 2004 - 09:50 am
My condolences to you and all the other smart Americans out there for having to deal with possibly another four years of idiocy and stupidity... :P
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ex_prezrober685 on November 3rd, 2004 - 09:51 am
Blame Canada! Blame CANADAAAA!!!
You realize, coming from Canada, that means nothing.

at all.
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ex_prezrober685 on November 3rd, 2004 - 09:50 am
I was thinking the reverse was true... and oh look, the Constitution agrees.

Go America!
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The People's Exhibit A: californiadavidology on November 3rd, 2004 - 10:55 am
lol

you are truly sad if you think this is good for you and your future relationships.

I honestly do hope, however, that I am wrong, and that your president (because he sure in the fuck has made it clear that he is not mine) will come through and push equal rights for everyone.

But I sincerely doubt it. I think your revered hate monger will continue his religious jihad against gay americans in this country and continue to denigrate you and your relationships.

He used you as a political chew toy, and you blindly sat there, accepted, and even cheered it on.

My only hope at this point is that McCain, Arnold, and the other sensible Republicans left in the party will rise up as is expected and eject the religious cabal that has its stranglehold on the Republican Party—starting with your president.

Some have said that Bush doesn't really believe the religious nonsense he spews from his mouth—that is was just rhetoric to secure the "base." We'll find out soon.

What has happened in this election is truly and utterly disgusting. In world affairs, the U.S. just lost what little respect it had left. At least before we could claim the high ground by saying its electorate didn't support the president, and he was acting on his own. We lost that last night when the electorate proved its myopic view of the world and the Democratic Party its incompetence at elections.
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ex_prezrober685 on November 3rd, 2004 - 11:13 am
Maybe Bush wouldn't have been so bad on gays if gays had not been so bad on him?

Think of that? Don't throw bombs and not expect warfare to ensue.

If the US lost "whatever respect" it had left, then you are not a patriotic American. This was a success of Constitution, law, and American Spirit. You denigrate that spirit, merely because your champion did not succeed... that's more shameful than any disrepect an ungrateful foriegn country can ever have.
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mark or markymarkormarky on November 3rd, 2004 - 11:33 am
the log cabin republicans gave him their unbridled support, then bush turned on THEM. their support was not worth compromising his politcal and idealogical need to designate them as second-class citizens.

go read andrew sullivan the last 3 mo. a bigger gay bush-supporter did not exist before.
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ex_prezrober685 on November 3rd, 2004 - 11:46 am
trust me, one exists.

And yes, the logs also did something stupid by pushing the marriage issue with Bush and not with Kerry. Well, turns out, Kerry didn't want it either.

It's unpopular, neither candidate did it - what are you complaining about exactly?
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mark or marky: spikeymarkormarky on November 3rd, 2004 - 12:14 pm
just trying to understand why your support appears to be so black-and-white for mr bush. i don't get it - don't get me wrong, you're entitled, of course. it's just that you're obviously smart, which would lead me to believe you would see a lot more shades of gray. that's all.

also, i wanted to see your bunny-fucking icon :-P
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ex_prezrober685 on November 3rd, 2004 - 02:12 pm
Black & White
I suppose my shades of gray happen with minority rights and social actions that do not interfere with individuals not participating.

I have a little gray but more than not I usually see the good reasons behind what President Bush does... for example, this Oil War is awesomely good if it puts a democracy, even that chance is worth the risk.

Then again, I'm all for affirmative action and gay rights.
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The People's Exhibit A: californiadavidology on November 3rd, 2004 - 01:40 pm
Maybe Bush wouldn't have been so bad on gays if gays had not been so bad on him?

are you kidding me? He was President of the entire U.S.... not just those who voted for him, but then again, Bush showed what he did to people who cross him. He's the most divisive President in recent history.

If the US lost "whatever respect" it had left, then you are not a patriotic American. This was a success of Constitution, law, and American Spirit. You denigrate that spirit, merely because your champion did not succeed...

Yes, that's right, I'm an unpatriotic American. That's what I am. Yep, disagree with the President and immediately get tarred as unpatriotic. That's the principals our country was founded upon.

George W. Bush is the most disrespected U.S. President across the entire world. The world hates him—including the citizens of our allies. This election was our opportunity to distance ourselves from him, and we failed. We failed. Bush is responsible for the low world opinion of the U.S. after 9/11. Now we for electing him hold that responsibility. They might have excused us in 2000. But there was NO excuse for voting for him in 2004, short of having your head up your ass for four years.

that's more shameful than any disrepect an ungrateful foriegn country can ever have.

Thank you for exemplifying the arrogant "ugly" American so plainly. "Ungrateful" for starting a war everyone else said was launched on false pretenses? In case you weren't watching, they were right, we wrong—unless, of course, you happen to know where the WMDs are hiding.
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ex_prezrober685 on November 7th, 2004 - 10:53 am
People called President Lincoln divisive, too.

And if you read what I said - I said you are unpatriotic because you don't agree with the Constitution, Law, and the American spirit merely because your candidate did not win. I didn't say because you "disagree" with the President. Didn't say that at all... maybe that's a freudian slip reflecting why you hate America. Simply because of it's President.

Again, many disagreed with the Civil War, same here. Just because you don't agree with Iraq, doesn't mean I'm "the arrogant 'ugly' American".

In case you forgot, WMDs weren't the only reason we went to war. Keep thinking it was, 54% of America doesn't.
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Ryanbcp on November 4th, 2004 - 01:07 am
Your law is an ass, and the fabled American Spirit is nowhere in sight.

*puts on his flameproof suit*

For the rest of the world, this election wasn't about one 'champion' winning - we don't really care. It is about the USA's elected government having great power and no matching responsibility - not to humanity, and apparently not even to its own apathetic citizens.

(Rant over. Just needed to vent. Sorry.)
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The People's Exhibit A: californiadavidology on November 4th, 2004 - 12:32 pm
I think Bush's callous disregard for international treaties, humanity, other nations took us all by surprise as well. Well, many of us anyway.

Bush doesn't realize that as a so-called super power come responsibilities. His father realized it, Clinton realized it. Sadly, this president does not. He thinks seens to think he's on a mission from God.

At least he's gone by constitutional mandate in 4 years. The next four years, however, are going to be hell. Bush has today vowed to continue with "his" agenda citing this election as his mandate to do whatever he wants.
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ex_prezrober685 on November 4th, 2004 - 09:49 pm
fabled American spirit?
That spirit is no fable, and our power comes from the Spirit that joins us all.

How about the world matching some responsiblity through following through with UN resolutions? How about the world being responsible, before they ever point the finger at the one country that feeds them.
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mark or marky: spikeymarkormarky on November 3rd, 2004 - 11:26 am
WELL SAID.
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D a y s p r i n gsextypeboy on November 3rd, 2004 - 10:25 am
Can I stay...please, I hate Florida jsut as much as you do right now. =\
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Amalthiaamothea on November 3rd, 2004 - 11:12 am
Not a happy camper
I'm from Texas and I voted for Kerry....it's frustrating knowing your vote means nothing if you live in the south.
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Ceira Denisegiftedeccentric on November 3rd, 2004 - 01:11 pm
Re: Not a happy camper
Votes never count for "nothing". Your vote is still counted, though it may have fallen in the majority. There were a lot of issues, other than gay marriage, that were to be taken into consideration for the election. I voted for Bush, yes, but not because I am against gay marriage. If anyone had read my rant about the closemindedness of some people here about the subject, they would understand that. Personally, I don't think Kerry would have handled our troops and that situation as well as I wanted it to be handled. Bush has his low points. Kerry does as well. Wow, sorry for taking up so much space on someone else's comment thing. I didn't vote though. ::under 18::
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Amalthiaamothea on November 3rd, 2004 - 01:44 pm
Re: Not a happy camper
As someone who has multiple family members stationed in Iraq, I think Bush has done a piss poor job so far. I fear that i'll have to go to one of my cousin's funerals because Bush is thinking with his pocketbook more than he is of the soliders who are fighting for no reason other than to make money for Haliburton.

It's one thing if we were really at war for a good cause but we aren't. And I don't want my dad or three of my cousins to be murdered because Bush is an incomptent ass-hole that aliented every single nation that might have given us more support.

Bush lied multiple times and apparently for most people that's okay. He's lost all credibility for me. That is why I wanted Kerry instead.

As of this point, Kerry has not lied to the public and lost over a thousand lives because of it. Not to mention all the soliders who are now maimed for life. You try and imagine what it must feel like to not have legs anymore after they were blown off, or arms, or your eye sight. If 1200 troops are dead, I can assure you there are thousands more in physical therapy trying to learn how to live with their new disabilities.
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donovand on November 3rd, 2004 - 06:18 pm


i'm tired of people saying we're out of touch with america when they are out of touch with us.
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The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 3rd, 2004 - 06:21 pm
I think they're out of touch with compassion and reality, left in their backwoods, suburbun bubbles. They have no clue what the real world is like.
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(no subject) - backseathero on November 3rd, 2004 - 09:22 pm
The People's Exhibit Adavidology on November 3rd, 2004 - 10:20 pm
I love your optimism.

And that icon. It makes me oddly happier.
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